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Everybody out of the pool!

Crawl swimmer in an indoor pool.  Photo courtesy of the US Army, Fort Sill and Wikipedia.Q:  Does lightning strike indoor swimming pools? If the building has lightning rods? Has anyone ever been hurt or killed?  Ann, Oberlin, Ohio

A crawl swimmer, indoors. Photo courtesy of the US Army, Fort Sill and Wikipedia.

A:  Lightning can strike indoor swimming pools.  That's why lifeguards yell, "Every body out of the pool!" when lightning gets within six to eight miles.  

Current from a lightning strike can invade an indoor pool, and hurt people.  Here's how:  Lightning strikes a power pole outside the pool building.  A surge of current races along the electrical wires from the hit power pole to the pump in the building.  The pump moves water and, therefore, contains water; water conducts electricity.  The current surge flows from pump wires into pump water, which conducts the electric current into pool water and water splashed around the area. 

This endangers people in the pool and walking on the wet floors, because the current then flows through people to ground, along any of various paths:  A person standing in the pool, one climbing on the ladder, another touching the underwater lights.  The huge current could injure or kill all such people. 

When lightning is within five miles of an indoor pool, safe practices dictate leaving the pool, and moving to a dry area of the building — well away from any metal (such as, phone lines, electrical wires or buried pipes).  Metal can conduct a bolt's current.  

If the "Flash-To-Bang" delay (length of time in seconds between a lightning flash and its subsequent thunder) is 30 seconds, the lightning is five miles away.

Current flowing from a lightning strike is fearsome — averaging about 25,000 amps.  For comparison:  a reading lamp shines with only one amp of current.  In the year 2000, lightning killed two boys in an outdoor pool in Florida. 

"The enormous power of a lightning bolt does make the kind of precautions you outlined appropriate, although they may seem extreme to the kid who really wants to go swimming," emails physicist Rod Nave, professor at Georgia State University.

"We could find no reports of deaths or injuries in indoor pools related to lightning causes," says Richard Kithil of the National Lightning Safety Institute and Kevin Johnston, a senior consultant.  They suspect such incidents happen, but go unreported.  They have observed:  a main circulation pump destroyed, injuries to employees touching electrical panels and the concrete footing of a water slide blown apart. 

"There are many reports of injuries/deaths in bathtubs from lightning. This is indirect evidence, of course, but it seems reasonable the same danger exists in (larger) swimming pools," emails Kithil.

Kithil and Johnson conclude:  suspend all pool activities (including showers) until 30 minutes after the last observed thunder or lightning.

By the way, over the past 30 years, lightning killed more people in the USA than tornadoes or hurricanes, according to John Jensenius of the NOAA and the National Weather Service.

Further Reading

Lightning and aquatics safety: a cautionary perspective for indoor pools by Richard Kithil and Kevin Johnston, National Lightning Safety Institute

Weather fatalities, NOAA

Lightning safety, NOAA

Lightning current by Rod Nave, HyperPhysics

Lightning safety, National Weather Service

Lightning FAQ, National Severe Storms Laboratory (NSSL)

Reader's Answer

According to the National Severe Storms Laboratory (NSSL), both indoor and outdoor pools are unsafe during a lightning storm. Reason being that any part of a home or outdoor facility that is struck by lightening can affect the entire location. According to this website, there have been no reported deaths due to swimming indoors during a lightning storm.

Karishma, Kaajal, and Shanya, West Sacramento, California USA

(Answered Oct. 9, 2007)

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Readers' Comments:

  • Why does the article begin, "Lightning strikes indoor swimming pools", as if there have been deaths from lightning in indoor swimming pools?   The fact of the matter is that virtually everyone refers to the NLSI article by Kithil, but never has there been a death in an indoor swimming pool.  But there have been deaths in showers (where many go when forced to leave the pool).

    Lightning is virtually impossible to predict, but if no one has ever been killed in an indoor pool, wouldn't it make sense to actually go get IN the pool when lightning is in the area.  Where would you rather be?  In a place where it has killed, or in a place where it has NEVER killed? 

    My opinion is that the NLSI piece is a cya piece that pretends to be scientific, but contains no research other than scouring the internet, only to find that no deaths have ever been reported in an indoor pool.  Wouldn't any sane person thereby conclude that swimming in an indoor pool when there is lightning in the area poses no significant risk?  What other conclusion could you come to?

    Look, in elementary school they used to instruct us to hide under our desks in case of an atomic bomb attack?  Why don't we do that any more?  Because it is pointless.  The same is true for requiring folks to leave an indoor pool when there is lightning in the area.

    When will we act according to facts, as opposed to acting because someone invented a bogeyman?   Lloyd, Austin, Texas, USA
     
  • Reply:  You've got a point, Lloyd.  I've changed the lead to lightning can strike indoor pools, which it certainly can.  Just as it can showers.  I would not go anyplace near metal pipes during a thunderstorm.
  • On an added note, while I suppose it is true that lightning can strike virtually anywhere, including indoor pools, you might want to take a look at an article published by Aquatics International here:
     
     
    You'll note that their conclusion is that, if simple, basic national building standards have been met, one is just as safe in an indoor pool as anywhere else, as the statistics bear out..  To me that says that there is no good scientific reason for clearing indoor pools when lightning is in the area.  In fact, since people often walk into a parking lot to go to their car to exit a facility when forced to exit an indoor pool, clearing a pool when lightning is in the area actually exposes more people to increased danger from lightning.   That would make clearing an indoor pool a very poor and dangerous decision.  Wouldn't you agree?  Lloyd, Austin, Texas, USA


     

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